Raven
Raven
Minnie
camgirlminnie@gmail.com
camgirlminnie@hotmail.com
http://www.camgirlminnie.com/
http://camgirlminnie.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/minnieclips
http://camgirlhandbook.com/
Toronto, Ontario
So after 21 e-mails later, I finally gave up on this moronic escort. I’m sorry for calling names, but nothing irks me more than people who have no brains at all.
Raven wasted my precious time & then when I told her nicely that I can’t keep giving her the same prices & product names over & over & over again, she got nasty with me calling me a bitch, saying I was rude & that she no longer wanted to order. She also accused me of being money hungry because I guess spending 3 days straight & e-mailing her 21 days isn’t good enough for this escort. She needs me to give her ALL of my attention & take away time from other serious potential clients & clients.
She “tried” to claim she isn’t a time waster & that she wanted to make sure I wasn’t a scam, but she is a time waster & she’s just using excuses to justify her behavior.
So here is what happened…
For 3 days straight I tried to help her to figure out which product she wanted to purchase. I had to repeat myself which I gladly did, as sometimes it can be confusing. She also mentioned she had contacted me before (I think I remember her now, she kept me e-mailing her back & forth back then too & then just disappeared.) so she had had questions answered once before.
Based on what she said, it wasn’t clear to me whether she wanted to improve herself as an escort, or she wanted to start an escort agency, that’s how poor her communication skills were.
I patiently went through all the products, & I started to feel she wasn’t a good escort when she told me the price was too high.
Any escort who is even average at best can afford $500 for good information. They would make that in one day or less.
She’s in Canada, & I was allowing her to pay via a Canadian method not normally open to the public, so I had to keep figuring out the exchange rate for her which wasn’t the problem. The problem was that every time I gave her a price on something, she would ask me in the next e-mail what the price was again instead of just scrolling down & looking at what had been CLEARLY written by me.
I gave her the site to review prices, she ignored that & wasted my very busy time leading me to believe she was serious about ordering.
Then the next day when she “claims” she is FINALLY going to order, she asked me AGAIN which product is it & how much is it LOL
So I told her nicely yet firmly that she has to start thinking for herself (I’m paraphrasing here). That I am here to help her if she has different question, but I can’t keep repeating answers to the same question over & over & over again.
I also stated again that if she is that scared about ordering, then she just shouldn’t because I don’t deal well with fear based people.
It sounds like this escort lives in fear day in & day out. Based on my conversation with her, she wanted something negative to happen. She felt everything was “too good to be true”.
Even the most unintelligent of customers I’ve had can remember the name of the product & price from one minute to the next, but Raven couldn’t.
She says she’s in college or university or is going to be, but as I know, you don’t need brains to get into post secondary. I had several escorts who used to work for me who were the dumbest people. This Raven or Minnie is just one more to add to the list.
God help anyone who works for her escort agency if she does end up opening one up, & I don’t think she’ll survive as an independent escort, as it takes some brains to manage your own escort business.
She told me she worked for & with the following escort agencies:
- cupids escorts with jillian (Jillian, she says she finds you a bully sometimes, maybe you are, maybe you aren’t, but I can imagine that dealing with this one is more work than it’s worth & she probably frustrates you to no end.)
- I was also with mirage ladies
- and 4play ladies
This Raven escort says she’s been an escort for 10 years.
So for 10 years she’s been an escort & yet she has no idea how to become independent or open an agency. She has to be close to 30 years old or older & she’s this stupid??? LOL. Sorry, as I’m writing this I’m starting to feel sorry for her, I’m just really pissed at having wasted my time.
I will say this, just because someone is an escort, DOESN’T mean they can run an escort agency.
Any escort I had who tried to open an escort service failed usually within 3 months & here’s why. MOST of them are not smart enough to even read simple English let alone run a busy company.
She lives in Toronto, Ontario.
Just to be clear, every single person has the right to purchase or not purchase, but what really upset me here is that I was soooo nice to her, & I answered her question after question after question, & all I asked her to do was to figure things out on her own because if she can’t even remember pricing now, how in the world is she ever going to be able to download the e-book. This chick will be e-mailing me every 2 minutes asking me for help which I won’t be able to give her as I charge for tech support since the instructions are very easy to follow.
I was giving her tough love, & as a consultant, that is my job, to tell people the truth.
I told her we give everyone a webpage & we expect them to read it.
Well she didn’t like any of my answers.
I know she got angry because she knows she isn’t smart & it hurts her, but really, you don’t have to be THAT smart to read an e-mail & understand what is being written about prices.
She expected me to hold her hand every step of the way even after I had held it for 3 days straight.
I’m sorry Raven, but I charge for consultation & that means FOR ANY CONSULTATION. If you had a potential customer who wasted your time for 3 days straight asking you to repeat your pricing over & over & over again when it was clearly written on your website, you’d be telling all the escorts he was a time waster, & that is what you are to me.
If you need me to repeat the same price 5 times, eventually that constitutes consultation. I’m educating you on pricing & product names & this has gone above & beyond pre-sales help.
I told her never to contact my company or sister companies again. Her business is not welcome here.
Michelle
July 27th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
So I need to update this post, as this Raven Mimmie girl not only wasted my time, she is now stalking, harassing & threatening me.
First she threatens me re: the above post.
Fine, it’s to be expected that most (not all) would react in this manner.
I can’t lump everyone into the same category, as I once had someone who was very nice & civil contact me & she & I talked it out. Turns out there was an error on my part, so I took down her post immediately & apologized to her (mistakes do happen).
With this Raven, I had already warned her I was going to put her on my blog after she played games, wasted my time twice (forgot to mention that she had e-mailed me several months ago & I had answered all of her questions back then too which took several days. No problem, that’s what I’m here for, but I’m not here for time wasters. Someone who said she was going to purchase, who I helped for 3 days straight when I could have been helping someone who was serious. Then after I told her I can’t repeat the prices again since I had already given them to her 5-10 times already which was in the e-mail she was responding to each time. If she can’t be bothered to read the entire e-mail to find out what I had written, then she shouldn’t be running a business anyway, as that shows me laziness, & one can’t be an entrepreneur & be lazy. I mean they can, but I don’t respect these types of business owners & I’m certainly not going to help a lazy person get into the escort industry.
Then she called me names because I refused to baby her.
Back to the blog post…
Fine so she’s upset, I get that, BUT, now she’s having her friends & websmaters e-mail me as well.
I won’t post his the webmaster’s name here because I told him I wouldn’t, but if this continues, I will probably have to since I feel that others should be aware of who this so called websmaster associates himself with.
It’s not my intent to involve others in Raven’s business, but then Raven shouldn’t be having her whole clan of people e-mail me either.
Raven, this is a business, this isn’t the streets, if you are a hooker who thinks that violence & intimidation will get you your own way, you are mistaken.
Anyway, Raven is also harassing me & threateneing me with the cops LOL, which I find very amusing.
Umm, Raven, I can get the phone number to the police for you if you want, I have no problem with you calling them since I’m not breaking any laws, AND, I doubt they will listen to a raving lunitic to goes around threatening & harssing people.
Here is just some of what she has written me…
“Listen Michelle
Im sick and tired of your bullshit.
you consistantly post on your so called blog,
about people who have apparently pissed you off
but you need to grow the fuck up and stop your childish games
You need to realize that you are running a buisness and people are going to piss you off
so fucking suck it up , the way i see it , your nothing but a stuck up bitch,
i should call the police and tell them about the stuff you are posting
if your so smart you should know that it is ILLEGAL to post peoples personal infortmation online without their concent
you could be looking at jail time michelle.
i will give you 24 hours to delete the stuff that you have wrote about these people before i call the athouritys about this situation
I just hoper you know that someone you have posted about happens to be in my family and i will make sure you are stoped of ruining peoples reputation
unlike you , these people have lives and dont want their names getting out in a bad way
IF YOU HAVENT NOTICED IN THE 10 OR SO YEARS YOUVE BEEN DOING THIS, NO ON WANTS YOUR PRODUCT , NO ONE WANTS IT BECAUSE NO ONE CARES
sincerly, a concerd person”
Then after I ignored her, she wrote me again threatening more…
“you inconciderant bitch
if you dont email me back by tuesday at 8PM about why i shouldnt call the cops then i will call the cops”
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Now you know why she made her way to my blog. I’ll repeat myself again. I feel as an advocate for the escort industry that it’s my duty to out the really negative dysfunctional people who get into the industry & make it really negative for the people who aren’t like that.
Escorts need to be warned about people who are like Raven who wish to open an agency, clients need to be warned as well about both agencies & escorts who behave in this manner.
As for what Raven said about business & me, I disagree. No one should tolerate abuse or people who play games.
Business owners have just as much of a right to protect themselves from crazy consumers as consumers have the right to be treated with respect & great customer service.
Potential customers rarely piss me off. They may annoy me, but that’s not a reason for me to put someone on my blog.
One has to really be a bit on the crazy side or fraudulent for me to put them there.
Raven I’m asking very nicely for you to stop harassing & threatening me, because if you don’t, I will have to call the police myself since that IS against the law.
Thank you
Michelle